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I remember when they wanted to close all smaller departments in the university of my hometown (Hamburg, Germany) with the reason you named: Geting rid of costlier departments, streamlining the university. But they didnt call it that, they said it was because they want more students finding work in those field.

When someone pointed out that no1 on the shopping block was finnugristic which had the previous year a HUNDRED PERCENT employmenmt rate by graduates in finnish businesses, they basically said "Well, still" (I left shortly afterwards so I dont know what happend in the end)

That was in the 90s.

Universities are expansive, and they allow for critical thinking. Thats not high on the priority list on conservative politicians.

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Bridgitte Rodguez's avatar

You make really valid points! I may have said this as a comment on one of your other newsletters-- or quite possibly one of the many other newsletters I read, but most people view college as a way to get a job. And find no value in degrees that don’t directly lead to a job, i.e. the social sciences and humanities. Neither of my parents have college degrees, but my going to college was never a question, but an expectation. Because an education would lead to a good job. So I didn’t have the pressure to major in something that would lead to a job, and I didn’t treat college that way. I ended up with a BA in Anthropology, because it was the one discipline that was interdisciplinary! I could do all the science/bio stuff I liked without the math and chemistry, and also all the history I enjoyed with archaeology. I subsequently went on to earn an MA in anthropology as well! I always viewed college as teaching me and everyone else, though my peers vehemently disagreed-- most of whom were science/engineering/math majors-- that we were all learning the same thing, how to read, how to write and how to think critically. Vastly important skills no matter what career you choose. Skills, I realize, that my parents don’t quite have, with their high school educations. I never had a directly related anthropology job-- which did pose a problem in job interviews, and still does, as people assume that I should be a professor, or locked away in a lab doing research-- things I never wanted to do! But any real job skills, I learned on the job. In this day and age, where you can google anything, watch a you tube video showing you how to do something, college shouldn’t be about finding a job, but learning how to be in the world. Grad school is for practical job skills. You don’t need to have a BA in biology to go to med school-- you go to med school to be a doctor. That’s where you learn the skills for that, and frankly that’s what you do at the hospital! You learn to be a doctor not in college, but on the job. Like most jobs. So really, we all need to get over our hangups with using college as the means to finding a job, or the means to learning how to do a job. That’s not what it is and was designed for. And furthermore, college isn’t for everyone, not because everyone can’t go to college, by all means it should be accessible to everyone who wants to go, but it shouldn’t be the status symbol that it at times, still maintains. Skilled labor is important and necessary. We need plumbers and electricians and builders, etc. etc. who can be creative in solving those things, skills they learn in a trade school or through an apprenticeship. Anyway, now that I’ve run on, just wanted to say that I like all your points!

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